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Postby psychosomatiKing » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:18 am

...something slightly darker this time....







church by the water

You have me by the neck
Fingers burrowing deeply
Into my flesh
And I'll remember
When I wake up
Not to breathe too fast
I'll keep my eyes shut
And hide myself within

You force my face into the water
With crazed determination
In your soul
And I'll pretend
That somehow
This isn't over...
That my strength isn't waning
To a cold and eerie murmur

You hold me up to the sky
Like I was someone else
Something else (entirely)
And I'll forgive you
This time
Like every other time
For I am a child of the river
And my tears
Will be yours to drown in



I meet them in the streets
They look at me strangely
I know all their names
They're scribbled down
All over my walls
On my floor
And my door

Don't knock...
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Postby Iceicelet » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:07 pm

Regarding a poem 'Church by the Water'..I have to say that I like this one very much. Very monolith structure, atmosphere and everything else. This piece provides intellectual challenge for a reader, as usually. And...this is because of polysemantic.

This time it`s like a parable about church (or building if you `d allow me to say so) which I `d like to compare with human being whose tower could reach the sky while foundation is still on the ground/or in the water. Windows and doors are symbolic as well and we could find here so many connotations.

Everything is saturated with feelings of isolation and it has been affirmed by the last words of the poem. This is absolutely brilliant and in the same time - so simple. :)
There might be at least 4 possible interpretations to this poem as well as every other with same polysemantic structure.

Every word seems to be carved in stone. It makes this feeling of isolation.
I hope my comments aren` t breaking in the enigmatic charm of this poem.
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Postby Scarlett » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:07 pm

Firstly, I love the poem. It's one of my favourites of yours so far I think. It reminds me of a nightmare that continues when you wake up. The last verse and the ending are especially powerful. I agree with the feelings of isolation expressed by Iceicelet.

And secondly, I have to mention how I like the way Iceicelet reviews/interprets the poems - I enjoy reading them almost as much as reading the poems themselves.
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Postby Gottfried » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:33 pm

Scarlett wrote:...I have to mention how I like the way Iceicelet reviews/interprets the poems - I enjoy reading them almost as much as reading the poems themselves.


I concur!.. She could be a fine literary critic (if she isn't already). :)

And as for the poem... For some reason I spied a macabre yet peculiarly beautiful female "sufferingbringer" image. :o

The poem on the whole is really breathtaking.

...But beyond the groans and grating
Of abhorrent Life, is waiting
Sweet Oblivion, culminating
All the years of fruitless quest.
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Postby psychosomatiKing » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:13 pm

Thank you very much Iceicelet, Scarlett and Gottfried. I'm really glad you enjoyed the poem (more to come further on).
And I agree with both Scarlett and Gottfried, it is a pleasure reading your interpretations Iceicelet. Sometimes you're spot on and sometimes you make me think of my own writing in a slightly different way. I thank you for this. :)
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Postby Iceicelet » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:48 pm

I must say something in this case as well...Thank you ladies for the kind words regarding my interpretations. However, this isn` t the main thing in here. We must thank to all authors who wrote for this thread and especially, - we must express our delight about deep thinking and beautifully written poems by Martin. I` m glad if I wrote some supplements ( this word makes me feel embarrassed) to them, because excellent poetry always deserves a special attention. :)

As always, there remains a question about right or wrong interpretation. I just hope that I didn` t express interpretations which might be perceived like extremely or even inverse...because in a case of paintings or graphics there are always hidden thoughts or self-evident art which might be also explained as an opposite to thoughts of an artist himself.
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Postby waterytimes » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:45 pm

I keep on picturing Down into the stream by Shape of Despair and Deeper Down by My Dying Bride while reading it.
Personally I don't think it has so much to do with isolation and being lonely and other such quite saturated topoi To my mind it has to do with a demonic quest or with an attempt to bring the inner most peculair demon to the surface. we all have one living beneath our skin and flesh and the author here tries to issue a sort of rocade: the submerge his human self beneath the flesh and skin(where the demon used to live) and to give skin to the demon who is now walking the streets where the human used to walk(that is why humans look strangely at his and leave stigmatizing messages all around)
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Postby waterytimes » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:50 pm

It's clearly a sense of wonder at stake and this sense of wonder comes from the very fact that the demon walks the surface fpor the very firtst time(it's a completely new realm for him) and the human sinks so deeply for the very first time as well. the interesting feelig is that the two never form a unity thought they never reject each other in any way either.
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Postby psychosomatiKing » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:41 pm

@Iceicelet: Thank you once again. And don't worry, I like your interpretations.

@waterytimes: That is indeed an interesting view of the poem (I'm assuming it's about Church by the Water). Thank you for writing it down.
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Postby Scarlett » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:33 pm

I just wondered if you have had any of your poetry published psychosomatiKing?
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Postby psychosomatiKing » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:38 pm

Scarlett wrote:I just wondered if you have had any of your poetry published psychosomatiKing?


Gods no, I don't consider myself good enough for that.
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Postby Iceicelet » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:32 pm

I almost thought the same thing as Scarlett. It`s a shame that any of your poetry isn` t available 'in a little nice poetry book' or whatever it could be named. :)

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Scarlett wrote:I just wondered if you have had any of your poetry published psychosomatiKing?


Gods no, I don't consider myself good enough for that.


I think you underestimate your own talent. There are already two of them ready to read your poetry book. :)
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Postby Scarlett » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:34 pm

Iceicelet wrote:I almost thought the same thing as Scarlett. It`s a shame that any of your poetry isn` t available 'in a little nice poetry book' or whatever it could be named. :)

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Scarlett wrote:I just wondered if you have had any of your poetry published psychosomatiKing?


Gods no, I don't consider myself good enough for that.


I think you underestimate your own talent. There are already two of them ready to read your poetry book. :)


Yes, having them all together in one little book would be great. I would definitely buy it!
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Postby Gottfried » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:25 pm

+1
Love this idea, girls. :wink:

...But beyond the groans and grating
Of abhorrent Life, is waiting
Sweet Oblivion, culminating
All the years of fruitless quest.
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Postby psychosomatiKing » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:24 pm

The three of you have clearly lost your minds. ;) Now I think it's about time someone else posted a poem or two in this thread.
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