Religion vs Science

[MySanityDoesFly]

I will vote for science, as a follower of dialectical materialism...

[managatsuo]

what do you think about this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo

[FrankieStrange]

If I said that Aaron is God, does that count as a religion?

[Princessvenom]

SCIENCE FTW

[MySanityDoesFly]

End of debate, surely.

[Princessvenom]

End of debate, surely.

+love+ haha

[MySanityDoesFly]

Well that's a turn-up for the books, eh!

[Ilona]

I don't actually see why it has to be "religion VS science"... I don't see the two as mutually exclusive.

Why should there being a God (if there was one) make science any less awesome?

And... let's face it... I've yet to see anyone scientifically prove that a God doesn't exist.

[muskurov]

I've yet to see anyone scientifically prove that a God doesn't exist.

The religious believers are the one who have to prove that god exists. After all it is thier own theory. If I claim that gravity exists I would have to and will prove it to you. I wouldn't expect you to prove it doesn't.

[Lycaon]

I've yet to see anyone scientifically prove that a God doesn't exist.

The religious believers are the one who have to prove that god exists. After all it is thier own theory. If I claim that gravity exists I would have to and will prove it to you. I wouldn't expect you to prove it doesn't.

Logically it is impossible to prove non-existence in the first place.

[MySanityDoesFly]

The religious believers are the one who have to prove that god exists. After all it is thier own theory. If I claim that gravity exists I would have to and will prove it to you. I wouldn't expect you to prove it doesn't.

Logically it is impossible to prove non-existence in the first place.

[Ilona]

Fair enough, I suppose the last bit was somewhat on the forced side of "witty".

The main point I was trying to communicate still stands, though. I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive.

Anyway, this reminds me... The last person I had a similar conversation with ended up telling me that time travel is theoretically possible (by bending the time-dimension or something; I've forgotten the details but he sounded very convincing) even though we don't know how to make that happen. He very much believed what he was talking about, but couldn't exactly prove it, at least in a way that I would have understood. Would this be faith or science? (I don't know if his claims were based on any generally accepted theory or if he was just talking out of his arse, but ultimately that's irrelevant to the point here.)

And as for gravity, I'm sure you could find someone who won't accept it as a fact and no amount of dropping stuff out of high towers will convince them otherwise.

[muskurov]

The main point I was trying to communicate still stands, though. I don't see why the two should be mutually exclusive.

They should not be.
My opinion is that when science answers a lifelong question, which was before answered only by religion (and the answer is always "God"), then is the moment that religious people start to be offensive against science. I don't think that scientist actually care much about what others believe in. But when an experiment or research shows a hole in one's system of beliefs he/she is outraged and vicious.

[Ilona]

My opinion is that when science answers a lifelong question, which was before answered only by religion (and the answer is always "God"), then is the moment that religious people start to be offensive against science. I don't think that scientist actually care much about what others believe in. But when an experiment or research shows a hole in one's system of beliefs he/she is outraged and vicious.

Sadly true. Makes me wonder what these people actually think about their God... If this hypothetical God didn't want people to do science and figure out how stuff works, surely he wouldn't have given people brains?

[firebird]

Somehow it is obsolete to emphasize science´s correctness - everybody who claims different...well...
Besides from that, what makes science sympathetic is the fact that people don´t kill each other in its name. Passion is nice, but it should never lead to that.